Flea on How Rick Rubin Helped the Red Hot Chili Peppers Find Their Groove | Questlove Show

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Flea, bassist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, discusses the band's journey to working successfully with producer Rick Rubin, highlighting the challenges they faced before finding their creative groove. He explains that an initial attempt to collaborate with Rubin before their album *The Uplift Mofo Party Plan* failed due to internal band issues, including widespread heroin use, infighting, and a generally negative atmosphere, which Rubin later described as feeling 'like death.' Flea recounts the band's struggles with lineup changes and drug problems, particularly concerning guitarist Hillel Slovak, who eventually died. The narrative shifts to the arrival of John Frusciante, whom Flea met through D.H. Peligro of Dead Kennedys, and describes Frusciante as the most driven musician he had ever encountered. Flea recalls calling Anthony Kiedis, who was in drug rehabilitation, to express his excitement about Frusciante's talent. After recording *Mother's Milk* and touring, the band reached a peak in their live performance, which Rick Rubin witnessed at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. This time, Rubin approached them with a clear vision: to capture their raw, natural jam sound in the studio, rather than over-producing it. He encouraged them to try all his ideas with an open mind, leading to a magical and productive rehearsal period where they spent significant time jamming freely before working on specific songs. Flea notes that Frusciante, initially trying to fit in, began to truly express himself by the time of *Blood Sugar Sex Magik*, bringing new elements to the band.

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