The PrimeTime host mentions that 'Nolan' proposes the idea of 'clean room as a service'.

The PrimeTime host recounts that in 1984, Phoenix Technologies legally recreated IBM's BIOS functionality using 'clean room engineering'.

The PrimeTime host explains that clean room engineering involves creating a buffer between an engineer who understands a technology and a second engineer who implements it from a specification, preventing legal issues.

The PrimeTime host states that open-source software is dead.

The PrimeTime host believes that the only way to effect change regarding AI clean room engineering is to create enough public outrage to compel government officials to enact new laws.